I love the gi, and was very surprised at how soft and sleek it felt. When I read it was rated at 1000gsm I expected something much rougher/scratchier. The moment I put it on I immediately noticed that Keiko has taken just as much time in developing a quality pant as they have their jacket. I was literally amazed at how nicely they felt and it made me notice how much other companies disregard their pants. I never even knew it was a problem until I put these on though. It is tempting not to buy a pair just to lounge around in; they are just THAT comfortable. The lapel thickness was a little thinner than what I expected, not bad just different. It is still very stiff and durable, and seems very tough to grip. Again I just noted it was thinner than my initial thoughts when ordering but it works really well without the "bulk" of a judo style collar.